Expert Says Taylor Swift’s Flirty Podcast With Travis Kelce Was More Than Playful
By Kelly Coffey-Behrens on August 14, 2025 at 1:15 PM EDT

Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s joint "New Heights" podcast appearance on August 13 had fans reeling, and now, celebrity psychic and body language expert Inbaal Honigman is breaking down every glance, touch, and giggle, revealing just how real this romance truly is.
Honigman analyzed the couple’s on-air chemistry, uncovering the subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways they showed their genuine affection.
The most viral moment? Taylor Swift, casually calling the NFL star her “boyfriend.”
Taylor Swift Melts As Travis Kelce Calls Her ‘The Greatest Songwriter Of All Time’
Travis Kelce: “Taylor Swift is the greatest songwriter of all time.”
Facts. pic.twitter.com/AVpixki7VE
— quick q’s (@quickqspod) August 13, 2025
The conversation took a tender turn when Travis called Taylor “the greatest songwriter of all time.”
He looked down as he said it, a humble, almost shy gesture signaling genuine admiration, according to Honigman.
Taylor, mirroring his movement, raised her eyes to meet his, leaning her head toward him in what Honigman calls an “air cuddle” before softly thanking him, her voice noticeably smaller and more vulnerable.
Then came the headline-making moment.
Swift Boldly Calls Kelce Her ‘Boyfriend’
taylor swift thanking the new heights podcast for giving her a boyfriend 😭 pic.twitter.com/vE2if7g5LW
— ana (@withluvselena) August 13, 2025
Turning to the camera with unwavering confidence, Taylor added, “says her boyfriend.” According to Honigman, who partnered with Casino.guru, the steady tone and direct gaze made it clear this was no slip. It was deliberate.
Travis’s reaction? A furrowed brow and a hint of surprise, as if he hadn’t realized they were officially using the label. Taylor giggled and glanced down at her feet, clearly aware the comment would send Swifties into a frenzy.
The pair burst into laughter together, cheeks lifted and eyes squeezed shut, a telltale sign their joy was genuine, not staged.
Expert Reveals Tender Under-The-Table Moment Between Taylor Swift And Travis Kelce
Travis Kelce on Taylor Swift:
“She’s so hot when she says the big words.”
pic.twitter.com/ocAYlo7lFz— Taylor Swift Updates (@TSUpdating) August 14, 2025
While the “boyfriend” reveal dominated headlines, Honigman says one of the most telling displays of their bond came during a more emotional exchange.
In an exclusive quote provided to The Blast, Honigman shared:
“When Taylor speaks of reclaiming her Masters, she mentions sending her mom and brother to speak with the then-owners of her music rights. When she mentions her family, her emotions overwhelm her and she reaches under the table to Travis for support.
Unseen by viewers, his arm embraces her from behind, and he squeezes her closer before rocking her side to side, the kind of soothing you’d give a child. Taylor’s hand goes to his leg, her way of showing love and gratitude for being by her side. It’s a strong bond of love between the pair. When she’s in pain, he jumps in to reassure her. Her pain is his pain, and her joy is his joy.”
Later in the episode, Travis teased Taylor about using big words, raising a playful eyebrow toward the camera. Taylor grinned, shaking her head in mock disbelief while never breaking eye contact.
Swift’s Flirty ‘You’re So Handsome’ Whisper To Travis Kelce Melts Hearts
Taylor: "You're so handsome"
Travis: 😁😁pic.twitter.com/Ti1IM0wJSR— Nat (@AllTooWellEra) August 14, 2025
Then came a small but telling gesture.
Taylor slipped her hand under Travis’s chin and told him, almost in a whisper, “You’re so handsome.”
Honigman says this blend of affection and teasing banter shows how deeply comfortable they are together. It’s intimate, it’s lighthearted, and it’s all very real.
Expert Insists Taylor Swift And Travis Kelce’s Love Is ‘Genuine,’ Not A Showmance
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce need to get married and have babies! This is my fairytale dammit! I want a happy ending!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 pic.twitter.com/5O3qFWX7os
— Yvette (@bougiesports) August 14, 2025
Honigman’s overall read? This isn’t PR. It’s pure connection.
Throughout the interview, both stars sat open and forward-facing, with uncrossed arms signaling honesty. Taylor leaned toward the mic often, eager to connect with the audience, while Travis positioned himself just slightly behind her, physically showing his support and protective nature.
They touched frequently, smiled every time their eyes met, and moved with the easy rhythm of two people who simply enjoy being together.
As Honigman sums it up, “This isn’t a showmance. It’s a genuine connection, comfort, and authentic romantic chemistry.”
It seems Taylor Swift has found her "Love Story" after all!