The pair talked about everything in the 60+ minute long podcast; from philanthropy to transcendental meditation and, of course, Harvey Weinstein.
The mega-mogul admitted she was close with Weinstein for a time and she was aware that he was a “bully,” revealing that the disgraced producer tried to bully her in the past. She did maintain, however, that she was totally unaware of the alleged rampant and systematic sexual misconduct.
“What I knew was Harvey was a bully,” she told Paltrow. “Was I friendly with Harvey? Yes, I was friendly with Harvey.”
The icon revealed to Paltrow that Weinstein actually used to try to pressure her to book the stars of his films on her hit talk show.
She first addressed the scandal via Facebook calling the allegations against Weinstein “hideous” but she caught flack for working with Weinstein in the past, and some questioned whether she was aware of the magnitude of the situation.
“Of course, I didn’t know any of this was going on,” Oprah said of the sexual harassment and abuse allegations.
Oprah spoke about Weinstein on “CBS This Morning” in October calling the scandal a “watershed moment” for women. In her conversation with the goop founder, she expanded on this idea and dropped a few curse words, too boot.
“I think where this movement will eventually lead us to is not accepting any kind of behavior that disparages you as a human being. Why am I willing to put up with an asshole? Not only am I not going to take your sexual harassment, I’m not going to take any of your bullshit, period.”
(OMG Oprah said asshole❣❣)
Gwyneth also opened up about her feelings regarding Weinstein saying she’s spent months trying to “process through it all.” Early in the scandal, Paltrow came out and publicly accused Weinstein of sexual misconduct telling Oprah she “didn’t feel safe to do it” but ultimately felt she had a responsibility.
“I confronted him and he never tried anything like that again but, he was a bully,” Paltrow said of Weinstein. “About work things he was shaming, he was really hard on me. And then he was incredibly generous and would send me a private plane somewhere. It was kind of a typical abusive relationship.”
Paltrow went on to explain that her career was so wrapped up in Weinstein and Miramax that she’s been wondering if Weinstein’s behavior contributed to her stepping away from acting after she had her daughter.
You can listen to the whole podcast here (the Weinstein moments happen toward the end but the interview in its entirety is definitely worth a listen.)