'Mormon Wives' Drama Heats Up: Taylor Frankie Paul Fires Back At Demi Engemann’s Podcast Remarks

By Melanie VanDerveer on May 16, 2025 at 6:15 PM EDT

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Stars of the hit Hulu reality series, "The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives" are stirring up some drama off the show, keeping fans engaged and entertained while they binge the recently released second season.

After Demi Engemann made a comment on a podcast about Taylor Frankie Paul's lack of concern over brand deals, Paul clapped back giving her perspective.

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Demi Engemann Talked About Taylor Frankie Paul On 'Viall Files' Podcast

Demi Engemann
TikTok | Nick Viall

During her recent appearance on Nick Viall's "Viall Files" podcast, Demi spilled some tea about her costars. And let's just say, shots fired!

"I don't even think Taylor cares about money. When I talked to her about brand deals, she's like, 'I don't even remember the last time I did a brand deal,'" Demi said on the podcast. "It's very clear who's in it to create a better lifestyle for their family and earn money and it's very clear who's in it for fame and recognition."

Taylor shared the clip from the podcast on an Instagram Story with her clap back directed right at Demi.

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'You Are Only In For Money'

Taylor Frankie Paul's IG Story
Instagram Story | Taylor Frankie Paul

It didn't take long for Taylor to respond to what Demi said on a recent episode of "Viall Files."

"That's called being modest and not rubbing my brand deals in your face, however, it's true money isn't first to me, I would never threaten to kick anyone off for more money for myself," Taylor wrote under the podcast clip on her Instagram Story.

"You are ONLY in for money and good for you for owning it couldn't be me."

And shots fired back!

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TikTok Had Some Things To Say About Demi's Comments And Taylor's Clapback

Viral TikToker @stephwithdadeets shared more information about Demi and Taylor's issue.

"Taylor calls out Demi for wanting people off the show in order for her to make more money for herself," Steph said. "Taylor Frankie Paul is clapping back at Demi on the 'Viall Files.'"

She showed the clip and explained a little more about it. She also showed Taylor's IG Story clapback.

"I really didn't get why Demi thought saying that would make Taylor look bad," Steph said. "And if I remember correctly, Demi, you did care about fame, talking about how 'I'm a fan favorite.'"

Fans of the show shared their thoughts in the comment section.

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"THAT PART! Demi is very selfish! She clearly wants to be the ONLY one on top and it doesn’t matter to her who she befriends. But yet she is so BIG in loyalty where was it when it came to money?!" one fan wrote. Another added, "I was so confused when she said that cause I was like 'wait is that supposed to make Taylor look bad?'"

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Demi Engemann Also Fired Shots At Jen Affleck

Jen Affleck
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It wasn't just Taylor who Demi discussed on the podcast. She also had some things to say about Jen Affleck.

She said Jen put on a show when the cameras were on, calling it a "performance."

"Jen is very performative. Everything was kind of an act, it was very much...the slow blinking, she had it on tap," Demi said. When asked how Jen is "in real life," Demi said, "Way more laid back. She's not as bold as she comes off on camera."

Demi said off camera, Jen is "easy going," but on camera, "she's this bold Jen that is willing to call anybody out and stand up to her mean husband."

She also said that Jen gets "very performative" when it comes to her husband, Zak Affleck.

Jessi Ngatikaura's Name Also Entered The Chat

The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives
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When Jessi's name entered the chat, Demi said she is "blocked on everything."

"I attempted to have a conversation with her. Honestly, truly, the thing that sucks so bad is that so much of this was either misunderstanding and things being twisted or just like completely the ego getting in the way of actually genuinely having a conversation," Demi said on the podcast. "When I tried to approach her to have that conversation, it was we'll talk on camera."

Demi said it was a "very transactional relationship."

It appears that season 2 is all about truths, friendships unraveling, and more drama than season 1 could have even dreamed of. Both seasons 1 and 2 are currently streaming on Hulu.

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